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Is it okay to copy guides to my site w/ attributions?

Post by mmpx222 » Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:18 am

I've been keeping a private copy of Phrozen Keep's file guides, making enhancements such as:
  • Adding tables of contents
  • Re-formatting them to improve readability
  • Adding missing info, fixing invalid info
  • Adding inter-document links for easier browsing
Is it okay to publish them to the web? Assuming the original authors are properly attributed (in a formal style, such as APA), and links to the original guides are provided. There seems to be no rule about site content licenses in the ToS.
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Re: Is it okay to copy guides to my site w/ attributions?

Post by Magiczny » Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:55 am

Interesting topic. I would like to bump! it just in purpose of feeding my curiousity...
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Post by Necrolis » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:21 pm

mmpx222 wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:18 am
I've been keeping a private copy of Phrozen Keep's file guides, making enhancements such as:
  • Adding tables of contents
  • Re-formatting them to improve readability
  • Adding missing info, fixing invalid info
  • Adding inter-document links for easier browsing
Is it okay to publish them to the web? Assuming the original authors are properly attributed (in a formal style, such as APA), and links to the original guides are provided. There seems to be no rule about site content licenses in the ToS.
Well generally we prefer that you link back to the tutorial on the Keep; this keeps everything in one place (specifically a place that will not be lost to the sands of time like so many other smaller sites tend to).

If you have made improvements to existing tutorials I do urge you to submit the improvements to an admin or moderator; we have been slowly and methodically improving the existing file guides and tutorials (a few are a little bit more borked than the rest due to missing images). And if you have a new guide or tutorial you are welcome to submit those as well.
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Re: Is it okay to copy guides to my site w/ attributions?

Post by Magiczny » Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:12 pm

@Necrolis,

Thank you for your answer, but I have one more question.

Can I ask you to develop something like an interactive forum map, including access to the problems, guides, walkthroughs, tutorials and tools from one place?
I am asking this because the people I referred here do not want to use this forum, justifing that they are lost in it.
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Re: Is it okay to copy guides to my site w/ attributions?

Post by Nizari » Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:26 pm

We have such thing and it is called "Knowledge Base", you can go there by clicking the link below:

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Post by Magiczny » Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:37 pm

Is Knowledge Base available in a systematic version in thematic groups?
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Post by Necrolis » Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:41 pm

Magiczny wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:37 pm
Is Knowledge Base available in a systematic version in thematic groups?
It very much is; maybe you should actually take a look at it before posting these kinds of comments
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Re: Is it okay to copy guides to my site w/ attributions?

Post by Magiczny » Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:56 pm

Necrolis wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:41 pm
Magiczny wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:37 pm
Is Knowledge Base available in a systematic version in thematic groups?
It very much is; maybe you should actually take a look at it before posting these kinds of comments
Sure, could you share any link please?
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Post by Necrolis » Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:01 pm

Magiczny wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:56 pm
Necrolis wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:41 pm
Magiczny wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:37 pm
Is Knowledge Base available in a systematic version in thematic groups?
It very much is; maybe you should actually take a look at it before posting these kinds of comments
Sure, could you share any link please?
It is literally in the menu to your left; more importantly Nizari already gave you a link. This is just sheer laziness.
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Re: Is it okay to copy guides to my site w/ attributions?

Post by Magiczny » Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:23 pm

We did not understand each other.

Take a look at this link:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=34455

Similarly, it contains various guides, but in this particular case they are grouped thematically. If at the moment I need to check how to make a new projectile for Armageddon animation, I know where to look for it.

In the Knowledge Base letter you attached ... this is not so obvious. There are a lot of valuable topics, some problems are still open inspiring, others already started, but not solved, tempt to try their own hand. It's all great, but when someone needs * the basics * it's hard for him to get into such a storm of content.

I just mean the basic tools, so that they are grouped in the form of very specific links, something like: basic tools and how to use them -> guides + tools + e.g. tutorials / ordered thematically. Just like in this wonderful link I posted here.
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Post by Necrolis » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:12 pm

Magiczny wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:23 pm
We did not understand each other.

Take a look at this link:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=34455

Similarly, it contains various guides, but in this particular case they are grouped thematically. If at the moment I need to check how to make a new projectile for Armageddon animation, I know where to look for it.

In the Knowledge Base letter you attached ... this is not so obvious. There are a lot of valuable topics, some problems are still open inspiring, others already started, but not solved, tempt to try their own hand. It's all great, but when someone needs * the basics * it's hard for him to get into such a storm of content.

I just mean the basic tools, so that they are grouped in the form of very specific links, something like: basic tools and how to use them -> guides + tools + e.g. tutorials / ordered thematically. Just like in this wonderful link I posted here.
It seems you didn't understand me: there is a drop down box that groups the tutorials, it just so happens to default to "all"
Pretty much everything in that post links back to the Knowledge Base... And on top of that, if a user cannot use the Search function, be it via the KB or the forums, modding D2 is the least of their problems.
However, if you feel you can do better, you are welcome to contribute.
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Re: Is it okay to copy guides to my site w/ attributions?

Post by Magiczny » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:02 am

Necrolis wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:12 pm
It seems you didn't understand me: there is a drop down box that groups the tutorials, it just so happens to default to "all"
Pretty much everything in that post links back to the Knowledge Base...
Where is that *drop box* :?:
It seems I cannot find it anyhow...
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Post by Necrolis » Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:16 pm

Magiczny wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:02 am
Necrolis wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:12 pm
It seems you didn't understand me: there is a drop down box that groups the tutorials, it just so happens to default to "all"
Pretty much everything in that post links back to the Knowledge Base...
Where is that *drop box* :?:
It seems I cannot find it anyhow...
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I mean it even has a heading, and is the only bit of white one the page....
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Re: Is it okay to copy guides to my site w/ attributions?

Post by Magiczny » Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:05 pm

omgash, I've never noticed that before! 8-O
Thanks a lot!

P.S.: Is it possible to make it more... noticeable...in future?
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