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My hardcore Challenge - Unique Of-a-Kind

Post by Phlebiac » Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:32 pm

Coming back to ZyEl once more I thought I needed some kind of challenge.
So I deleted my old hardcore shared stash and started a new char from scratch.
And then I remembered some kind of Tournament where you had to play all seven characters up to Baal hell. Why not doing that with ZyEl as well and on the way, level all seven chars to 10.000.
I had a little thought about the rules and restrictions I would have to play after and came up with this:
:!: One char of each character class has to be played until level 10.000 and beat Baal on hell difficulty.
:!: All character need to be in the same act at all times. I can only move on to the next act, after all seven chars have beaten the boss of the current act.
:!: If a character dies, it has to be remade and played until it catches up with the rest.
:!: Sharing items between the seven chars is fine, but there is one rule which I call the "used underwear" rule. Every item a character equips counts as used underwaer and no other character would want to wear these anymore. In terms of WoW, all items are bind on equip.
Charms are considered equiped if they are not moved to the shared stash after identifying and before leaving town for the next time.
:!: No posters before level 50 are allowed.
And that's it. Easy rules for easy remembering for an old man ;).


So far I have started three characters. One is already in Act 2 because I came up with the idea while running through the valey of snakes ;). But I wont play him anymore until the others are in Act 2 as well.
I don't want to start a tournament with this because it could take me a year or more to do this and it is possible that I loose interest in a few weeks, but until then, feel free to post your own experience with your challenge, if you like to do it as well.

Characters:
Forrest (Druid: 83)
Anton (Paladin: 15)
Cassandra (Sorceress: 3)


And now, on to the game. I have to run the bloodmoor a few times more before going on to bloodraven ;).
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Re: My hardcore Challenge - Unique Of-a-Kind

Post by Al-T » Sat Jan 24, 2009 11:37 pm

Nice plan Phlebiac and it is nice to see you around here again :)

The easy part will be killing Hell Ball with all 7 chars. The hard part will be getting all 7 to level 10K. Ama, Asn, Barb, Druid aren't a problem to get this high. Your problems start with Sorc, Pala and Nec. The nec has the hardest time of all. You will need to get him (and sorc and pala) a good bow with lots of elemental damage. The other problem is that XP from monsters even in the Insanity levels isn't as good as it used to be. No more 1-hit kills and less killing XP all round due to changes that were made for this version.

Having said all that, it sounds like a lot of fun and I wish you all the best with it.

Good luck and happy ZyElling :)

P.S. "Used underwear"...nice one...rofl :D
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Post by Hans » Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:13 pm

Eastern Sun had a tourney like that. I am in the middle of creating one for Zy-El. I thought I would have had the rules done by the end of December. I like your rules nice and simple.

If it is alright with you, we can use these rules for the Hardcore Tourney. I think the score would be the average of the levels of the characters.

[edit] forgot to mention good luck on your challenge.
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Post by Phlebiac » Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:32 pm

Thank you.

Feel free to use the rules for whatever you like.
If you really start a tournament I might even join it if I wouldn't have to restart ;).
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Post by Phlebiac » Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:36 pm

Stupid double posts.

I definitley clicked submit only once :(.
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Post by Hans » Sun Jan 25, 2009 5:02 pm

You wouldn't have to restart.

We can use this thread and can also post on the wiki.
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Post by Phlebiac » Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:06 pm

Using this thread would be fine.

Anton is Level 30 now, by the way.
He is running around the Blood Moor and the next area like a chicken with holy fire on and trying to dogde all those meanies :D.
But I can only do this on players 2, so I am thinking about starting a different char to farm a few more ChoMs for him.
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Re: My hardcore Challenge - Unique Of-a-Kind

Post by Dapaba » Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:07 pm

I think that is a neat challenge Phlebiac; good luck to you. I think the first character would be the hardest to start, with the rest gradually getting easier as your shared stash fills up?

Hans, it will be great to see the HC tourny start. Will keep an eye out for the rules.
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Post by Phlebiac » Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:10 pm

Rats, what's wrong with me?

Is it my slow connection or is something wrong with the forums?

My last three posts were all double posts although I did nothing but click on submit once and then left the PC.

Edit:
My first char was quiet easy so far. I made a Raven Druid and found a nice charm with Level 6 Dire Wolves in addition. So I could set the players setting quiet high from Level 25 onwards.
I will see if I can get a little bit more equipment with him for the other starting characters.
I am not sure though, what is the best area to farm in Act 1. I would think it is either the way from Outer Cloister Waypoint back to the entrance or Andariels lair. I'll give both a try.
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Post by Hans » Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:07 pm

Phlebliac: you are not the only one experiencing a slow connection here for the last few days. Lucky for me no double or triple posts let.

[Edit]
I added the Septathlon to the tourney listing at the Wiki.

Phlebliac you are fine with entering all your characters in to the tourney. Please add your characters to the wiki.

Everyone is free to enter the tourney unless you have been banned from taking part in one.

Good luck to all.
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Post by Phlebiac » Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:26 pm

I have entered my chars to the Wiki.
Now off to hunt some ChoMs :).

Edit: Yes! Finally a single post :D.
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Re: My hardcore Challenge - Unique Of-a-Kind

Post by JrEye » Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:28 pm

I guess I will throw my hat onto the table and try dunno how much Ill be able to play but Ill try :D
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Post by JrEye » Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:32 pm

I guess I will throw my hat onto the table and try dunno how much Ill be able to play but Ill try :D
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Post by Hans » Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:53 pm

I started today with Charles my Necro. He did not have to save and exit to roll a good map to get only quill rats and those pests. I got right from the start 1 flawed skull and 2 chipped skulls from the scrolls :D . I searched for some wands that would benefit me when I reach level 6. I used a Spear and played at players 8 and as soon as I reached level 5 it was smooth sailing for Blood Moor. I am now level 12. Next I will hire a Cold Rogue and give her some good items. I will then start my process of leveling in the Blood Moor and the Den of Evil. Maybe I will have a ChoM or two before moving on to the Cold Plains.
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Re: My hardcore Challenge - Unique Of-a-Kind

Post by Al-T » Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:48 pm

What the heck....I may as well give it a go :) . Like JrEye, however, I don't expect to do very well as I don't have much free time these days but I suppose someone has to come last so it may as well be me :P

I'll post my chars on the Wiki just as soon as I can.

Good luck to everyone in the Septathlon :)

[EDIT] P.S. JrEye...that was 2 hats you threw in...isn't that cheating :?: :mrgreen:
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Post by JrEye » Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:21 pm

server latency :roll:

and i only pressed submit once too :P
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Post by JrEye » Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:22 pm

edit: keep errors are out to get me =(
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Post by Hans » Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:58 pm

I like your character names Al, especially your Assassin ;) .
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Post by Al-T » Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:03 pm

My Amazon "Get_Phlebiac" is now level 7 using a 3 soc bow with 3 chipped sapphires and 2 soc gloves with 2 chipped sapphires (fear me 16-37 dmg :P ). At level 8 I'll get a cold rogue merc but I won't be going near the DoE until I am about level 20.
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Post by Hans » Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:08 pm

Al with that damage you can take down with ease the Mini Diablos :twisted: .
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Post by Likalo » Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:26 pm

You guys are lucky... lol I'm still stuck in normal... :cry: I don't have much time to play though... But I'm happy the HC tourney officially started on my birtdhay.. lol

See you guys... one day I'll maybe join you :twisted: haha
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Post by Hans » Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:33 pm

I think this tourney will be open for a long time since it will only close when Someone has all 7 characters at 10k. Keeping an HC character alive that long is going to be tough.

I hope you join us soon.
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Post by Phlebiac » Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:44 pm

Well, I did some calculating under the shower today.

And if I am going to make around 700 Levels per day, I will be done by mid may ;).

I strolled around the Moor with Conrad a bit today. As for you Hans, things started to smooth out as I hit Level 5 and got my first Skeleton.
I am now level 13 with 11 skels (see how the old saying "Skels spell Death" can be true for either side of the tabel ;)) and reached my travelling setting of players 12.
I think I will do a few more clears of the moor and then go on to the Den with a little more damage from Skeleton Mastery.

I am really happy, that so many of you are taking part in this, espacially since I never imagined this could be a real tournament.
Maybe we can even wake up that old cat for a small glimps at how the kittens ar still playing around with the giant ball of wool he gave us with ZyEl :mrgreen:!

Edit: Third time without double post. I think I got over it ;).
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Post by Hans » Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:07 pm

Phlebiac";p="410152" wrote:Well, I did some calculating under the shower today.

And if I am going to make around 700 Levels per day, I will be done by mid may ;).
You have setup a high goal. I was thinking that my max leveling would be 100 or so levels. Due to some characters are more difficult to survive in the later stages. You may force me to change my thinking.
I strolled around the Moor with Conrad a bit today. As for you Hans, things started to smooth out as I hit Level 5 and got my first Skeleton.
I am now level 13 with 11 skels (see how the old saying "Skels spell Death" can be true for either side of the tabel ;)) and reached my travelling setting of players 12.
I think I will do a few more clears of the moor and then go on to the Den with a little more damage from Skeleton Mastery.
I had to make a choice between a Necro and Druid as first character and I think I choose correctly. That was the best start I ever had in Zy-El. I will likely enter Den before I reach level 20, but I will be playing at players 1 until I reach level 20.
I am really happy, that so many of you are taking part in this, espacially since I never imagined this could be a real tournament.
Maybe we can even wake up that old cat for a small glimps at how the kittens ar still playing around with the giant ball of wool he gave us with ZyEl :mrgreen:!
Maybe he will join in and show us kittens how its done :) .
Edit: Third time without double post. I think I got over it ;).


Oh no :!: you just jinxed it for everyone :roll:
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Post by Al-T » Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:24 am

Well, sorry to dampen your fire but you will find necro and druid summons will deceive you with their survivabilty and damage right up to the point where you first try Cows or the real insanity levels and BAM :!: ...one dead Necro/Druid. Take my advice and get a bow early on and craft elemental damage for it or the insanity levels will be a no-go area :( . A Druid can go the werewolf/bear route to avoid this but the poor necro doesn't really have any other alternatives.

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I don't know if anyone else is doing this but to spice things up even more I have set the key "AlwaysRegenMapInSP=1" in my PlugY.ini file so I get a different map each time I start a new game. Makes you a bit nervous but I think that's a good thing as you are always "on your toes" :) .

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Likalo";p="410149" wrote: You guys are lucky... lol I'm still stuck in normal... :cry: I don't have much time to play though... But I'm happy the HC tourney officially started on my birtdhay.. lol

See you guys... one day I'll maybe join you :twisted: haha
You might want to try the following tip Likalo (and anyone else who hasn't beaten Baal in normal) if you want to start the tournament without having to kill him:

Run regedit and set the following key to 1:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Blizzard Entertainment\Diablo II\AllowHardcore (REG_DWORD)

Right-Click on the "AllowHardcore" key and choose "Modify" to do this.

Good luck and happy ZyElling :)

P.S. "Get_Phlebiac" is now level 15 and just acquired Fire Arrow.
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