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Re: Evolution Tournament Series - Chapter Two!

Post by Clersius » Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:47 am

Hellwolf_36" wrote:...there are still 11 chapters of glorious hell left :).
I like that, "glorious hell." :cool: :mrgreenlaughing:

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Re: Evolution Tournament Series - Chapter Two!

Post by Billybgame » Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:47 pm

We are doing full clears to learn the game, and killed Radamant, and equipped shiny blue and rare stuff in act 2. In a hurry, so new screen prints....trust me, I like my +2 Sorc skills ammy:) Just wish my merc would level fast so he could wear some rares to help his resists. He's 42 now, so he's getting there.

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Hellwolf_36             127       4572       0  1.0005        4574
Montex                  127       4324       0  1.0005        4326
John11                  127       3568       0  1.0005        3570
Al-T                    127       2327       0  1.0005        2328
GoGoDanny               127       2026       0  1.0005        2027

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Hellwolf_36        Blivarticcil/Sorc    10000      500  1500   3000  5000    4572  1.010     24818
Montex             Xeon/Barb            10000      500  1500   3000  5000    4326  1.005     24448
John               PewPew/Ama           10000      500  1500   3000  5000    3570  1.005     23688
Al-T               Dora/Ama             10000      500  1500   3000  5000    2328  1.005     22440
gogodanny          Black_Death/Assa     10000      500  1500   3000  5000    2027  1.005     22137
Billybgame         Michelle/Sorc        10000      500  1500      0     0       0  1.010     13200
AngusT             Aphelandra/Ama       10000      500  1500      0     0       0  1.005     12600
wolfwing           wlft/druid           10000      500  1500      0     0       0  0.990     11880
czg                Eve/Ama              10000        0     0      0     0       0  1.005     10050

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Metro              RiseandShine         10000        0     0      0     0       0  1.005     10050  RET
Edit: No thoughts on how my avatar went haywire after so many years? Seems peculiar.
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Re: Evolution Tournament Series - Chapter Two!

Post by Al-T » Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:17 pm

Never seen this happen before Billy sorry. It might be worth your while sending Onyx a PM to see if there is any way of recovering it.
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Re: Evolution Tournament Series - Chapter Two!

Post by Billybgame » Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:49 pm

Al-T" wrote:Never seen this happen before Billy sorry. It might be worth your while sending Onyx a PM to see if there is any way of recovering it.
Weird....I set this up so long ago, I didn't even remember how....:) I found it on my profile though, and there's nothing listed. Out of the blue....very odd. Hmm...guess I have to find a new one, now.

Edit: Seriously, I'm so un-artsy-fartsy, in real life, and on the computer, I have no clue how to do this again. I see some images I might want, but they are too big, even when I search for Other Image Sizes, on Google. Nothing is 100 x 100 or smaller. I'm thinking maybe I shrank my prior one, but don't recall how, so many years ago. I've not done anything like that since. I do go to a lot of forums, but guess I don't care enough about avatars to even do one:)
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Re: Evolution Tournament Series - Chapter Two!

Post by Xeigho » Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:11 am

Just smashed my way through sewers as quick as i could (~30 mins :/) and smited radament in his lair..
1st rare :D unique-of-a-kind 3's reward, (that is assuming i'm allowed to use t-card rewards?)

Edit: After a quick run through some desert, a pretty nifty crawl through a maggots nest and a sprint down the valley of the snakes and into the tomb, I have me a horadric staff :D and i only gained one level :)

And so the arcane sanctum surrenders its secrets to me.. The true tomb of tal rasha is that depicted by a triangle.
It can, however, wait for another day, i need some sleep :P

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Hellwolf_36             127       4572       0  1.0005        4574
Montex                  127       4324       0  1.0005        4326
John11                  127       3568       0  1.0005        3570
Al-T                    127       2327       0  1.0005        2328
GoGoDanny               127       2026       0  1.0005        2027

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Hellwolf_36        Blivarticcil/Sorc    10000      500  1500   3000  5000    4572  1.010     24818
Montex             Xeon/Barb            10000      500  1500   3000  5000    4326  1.005     24448
John               PewPew/Ama           10000      500  1500   3000  5000    3570  1.005     23688
Al-T               Dora/Ama             10000      500  1500   3000  5000    2328  1.005     22440
gogodanny          Black_Death/Assa     10000      500  1500   3000  5000    2027  1.005     22137
Billybgame         Michelle/Sorc        10000      500  1500      0     0       0  1.010     13200
AngusT             Aphelandra/Ama       10000      500  1500      0     0       0  1.005     12600
wolfwing           wlft/druid           10000      500  1500      0     0       0  0.990     11880
czg                Eve/Ama              10000        0     0      0     0       0  1.005     10050
Xeigho             Cassylin-lok/Assa     6965        0   1500     0     0       0  0.995     8458
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Metro              RiseandShine         10000        0     0      0     0       0  1.005     10050  RET
Last edited by Xeigho on Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:42 am, edited 3 times in total.
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Re: Evolution Tournament Series - Chapter Two!

Post by Clersius » Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:23 am

Many congrats, Xeigho... for graduating to Chapter Two, for acquisition of the Radament-Smiter title, and for the sweet, sweet amulet! Nice going all around. :)

Don't forget to watch your level... :twisted:

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Re: Evolution Tournament Series - Chapter Two!

Post by Xeigho » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:31 pm

figured i'd just get on with the chapter one side quest;
see the pics here
as you can see i got to the inner cloiser with virtually no health.. im currently sat waiting for it to recharge...

Edit: after waiting a full 10 minutes for it to recharge i continued on, only to get surrounded and slain by a vast number of dark ones (atleast 50) on the corner opposite the door to the bit with the chests in.. :(

Aah well, time to go pound duriel and chase the three prime evils to act 3. (not gonna bother even trying to get an album poster ive never managed it on any char yet..)

Down goes duriel. Al was right the true tomb does make the false ones look like children's play pens :D

Next question; how do i get more mf??!? im gearing my char towards it and well im only at 230% :roll:

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Hellwolf_36             127       4572       0  1.0005        4574
Montex                  127       4324       0  1.0005        4326
John11                  127       3568       0  1.0005        3570
Al-T                    127       2327       0  1.0005        2328
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John               PewPew/Ama           10000      500  1500   3000  5000    3570  1.005     23688
Al-T               Dora/Ama             10000      500  1500   3000  5000    2328  1.005     22440
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Xeigho             Cassylin-lok/Assa     6965      500  1500      0  5000       0  0.995     13940
Billybgame         Michelle/Sorc        10000      500  1500      0     0       0  1.010     13200
AngusT             Aphelandra/Ama       10000      500  1500      0     0       0  1.005     12600
wolfwing           wlft/druid           10000      500  1500      0     0       0  0.990     11880
czg                Eve/Ama              10000        0     0      0     0       0  1.005     10050
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Metro              RiseandShine         10000        0     0      0     0       0  1.005     10050  RET
'Seriously, barb would benefit us much more, and Paladins are much weaker. Plus a bald guy with a insanely huge sword scares me more than some fancy prick with a mace' ~ Stingray

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Re: Evolution Tournament Series - Chapter Two!

Post by Al-T » Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:43 pm

Xeigho" wrote:...Unique-of-a-kind 3's reward, (that is assuming i'm allowed to use t-card rewards...
Sorry, Xeigho, you can not use Treasure Cards until Chapter 4 and only if you have completed the Act 3 side-quest successfully.

Please place the amulet in your stash until you are in Act 4 and have completed the Act 3 side-quest successfully.
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Re: Evolution Tournament Series - Chapter Two!

Post by Xeigho » Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:32 pm

That's a bit of a pain :( but fair enough. I did have a quick look to find rules about t-cards but I couldn't see anything..
Ah well I shall have to craft myself an amulet to replace it, now that I am in act 3 :D
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Re: Evolution Tournament Series - Chapter Two!

Post by Hellwolf_36 » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:50 am

Xeigho" wrote: Next question; how do i get more mf??!? im gearing my char towards it and well im only at 230% :roll:
Easy, A Tall Charm equipped with P-Topazes. You equip a bunch of these along with posters. That's how I did it and gained 1200ish MF.

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Re: Evolution Tournament Series - Chapter Two!

Post by Billybgame » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:52 pm

Me and Michelle the Sorceress are back on the Zyl-El beam...working our way through act 2.....more to come soon.

Edit:

Wow....I'm not so sure about p 127 for the side quest.....doing the Maggot Lair on p 8 and these Mithril Knights....holy cow....my Sorc has been steamrolling everything, and she burned through all her mana pots, just taking out basic monsters. Hate to see Champions or boss packs of these at this point.

Of course, it's the hassle of the Maggot areas, my minions can't all attack, being single file and all. But, my Glacial Spikes were mowing down others, and it took tons of them to kill each Knight. They must have massive HP.

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Clersius                127       5211       0  1.0005        5214
Hellwolf_36             127       4572       0  1.0005        4574
Montex                  127       4324       0  1.0005        4326
John11                  127       3568       0  1.0005        3570
Al-T                    127       2327       0  1.0005        2328
GoGoDanny               127       2026       0  1.0005        2027

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Hellwolf_36        Blivarticcil/Sorc    10000      500  1500   3000  5000    4572  1.010     24818
Montex             Xeon/Barb            10000      500  1500   3000  5000    4326  1.005     24448
John               PewPew/Ama           10000      500  1500   3000  5000    3570  1.005     23688
Al-T               Dora/Ama             10000      500  1500   3000  5000    2328  1.005     22440
gogodanny          Black_Death/Assa     10000      500  1500   3000  5000    2027  1.005     22137
Billybgame         Michelle/Sorc        10000      500  1500   3000     0       0  1.010     16200
Xeigho             Cassylin-lok/Assa     6965      500  1500      0  5000       0  0.995     13940
AngusT             Aphelandra/Ama       10000      500  1500      0     0       0  1.005     12600
wolfwing           wlft/druid           10000      500  1500      0     0       0  0.990     11880
czg                Eve/Ama              10000        0     0      0     0       0  1.005     10050
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Metro              RiseandShine         10000        0     0      0     0       0  1.005     10050  RET
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Made our Staff and after two failed efforts and 2k wasted collector points, we made one of my all time favorite albums....London Calling by the Clash.:) However, I do not see the worth of using this 3x3 charm in my pack. Too much space for not enough benefit. Maybe if I was a melee character. All these posters seem to be so helpful to melee characters, I wonder why melee aren't more loved in Zyl-El. That's going to be my next character!

Anyhow, we are in the Canyon of the Magi, so looking better for finishing Chapter Two on time:) No deaths so far, and over 3.5k life.
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Re: Evolution Tournament Series - Chapter Two!

Post by Al-T » Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:19 am

However, I do not see the worth of using this 3x3 charm in my pack. Too much space for not enough benefit.
In case you didn't know, cube scrolls that add to Charms e.g. "Add HP any Charm" or "Add Mana to any Charm" also work on Minor and Album posters so a Sorceress can benefit from them, especially as they generally have decent +life and life regen to begin with. Adding a few scrolls to them can make them fairly godly if you have enough ;)
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Re: Evolution Tournament Series - Chapter Two!

Post by Billybgame » Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:13 am

I've done very little with cube scrolls, so far...figure at this early stage, I might want to save....but I have started to use more, other than the rune upgrades.

We finished off all Duriels and Andariels.....one word....WOW! That took a long time.

No deaths, is the good thing. Thought I might, when I accidentally had Teleport going instead of Static Field.......Doh! Close call, but after much teleporting, I got safe, finally.

So, busy week for me....do I have to have the side quest done by my 3 month mark, or how does that work? I very well may not be able to do that, as I know that is going to be one slow go, as I did the Halls of the Dead, on players 8, and it took me forever. I'd hate to have to forsake it, though....

Edit.....oooh....meant to ask.....behind Tyrael.....to the left in the very back area....there was some Temple of the Sun Altar, or some such thing, that I could do nothing with.....is it just for looks?
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Re: Evolution Tournament Series - Chapter Two!

Post by Clersius » Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:37 am

Good progress you are making, Billy. I would try doing the side quest anyway... I would imagine that Al would be kind enough to give you an extension to your time limit, considering the fact that you have been actively progressing during the last few days.

That faut Temple of the Sun Altar is just that - a non-working replica of the original. Actually, if you go back to the Viper Temple, you will find that the "real" Sun Altar acts as a replica as well.

My personal suggestion is that you do not save the majority of your scrolls for "later," as the most useful they will ever be, in general, is right this very moment. The more the game/tournament opens up its vast accoutrement of items, abilities, and crafting to you, the less voids there are for those cube scrolls to fill, and the less useful they become. :)

Good luck to you going forward!

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Re: Evolution Tournament Series - Chapter Two!

Post by Al-T » Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:27 am

Billy, take as long as you like to complete the side-quest. I am just very happy that you are still playing the tournament. Had there been 20 active players my answer may have been different but, as there seem to be only 4 of us (you, Clersius, Hellwolf_36 and myself), I am happy to relax the rules.

My take on cube scrolls is similar to Clerisus' view. Use all the common cube scrolls that can be used right now, reroll and/or upgrade the rest. Any uncommon scrolls that have MDR and DR, possibly Secret scrolls with absorbs also, I would keep for when you upgrade your equipment to what you think may be your end-game gear. Just bear in mind that the "Cosmic Imbalance" may prevent you from using some or all of your "current" gear from time to time (you may have to have more than 1 full set of gear for future challenges). If and when Zy-El Artifacts are allowed I will probably make a Zy-El's Decorum armour and use all my DR, MDR scrolls on it. +Skills scrolls I think are more a matter of whether you need them immediately or can afford to wait. As a Sorceress you may want to use at least some, assuming you have them, straight away whereas a Druid summoner wouldn't really need to use them at the same point. Arcane scrolls would again be used/saved depending on my immediate needs e.g. if my Ama was doing under 20K damage I would use a "Mega X to any Weapon" straight away but if she was doing around the 40K mark or more, I would save it for later.

Whatever you decide to do, the best of luck to you and once again thank you for continuing to play this tournament :)
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Re: Evolution Tournament Series - Chapter Two!

Post by Billybgame » Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:06 pm

Thanks Al.....my Michelle is really having no problems on p8. Mithril Knights are the worst so far, and keeping my merc alive is the real challenge.

Got to figure out better ways to keep him alive...he's still over 40 levels behind me. I was using Glacial Spike and freezing the packs that kill him consistently, but now that I got Frozen Orb, he's dying all the time, again. I've looked at rune words, and so far, have yet to find any big upgrades for him.

One other question on cube scrolls....I've now gotten a couple that look a little different and are greyish in color. Nothing special in terms of mods, but wanted to be sure what they were.
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Re: Evolution Tournament Series - Chapter Two!

Post by Al-T » Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:54 pm

If they look like this:
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then they are Secret cube scrolls, the 2nd highest tier (Common, Uncommon, Secret, Arcane).
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Re: Evolution Tournament Series - Chapter Two!

Post by Billybgame » Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:48 pm

No...I do not believe they look like that....blueish, and a little different form from the normal scrolls....are these Uncommon? I'd think Uncommon would mean better mods.
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Re: Evolution Tournament Series - Chapter Two!

Post by Clersius » Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:14 am

Aye, the blue-grey ones are Uncommon Cube Scrolls. They can have better mods than Commons, but there are dogs in all tiers of Cube Scrolls. What's really disappointing is when you get one of the dozen or so completely useless Arcane Cube Scrolls. :roll: Now that is annoying. :x

Anyway, keep making them and upgrading the ones that have no use for you. All in all you will not be wasting your time.

Oh, by the way, Arcanes are red with a little skull on them.

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Re: Evolution Tournament Series - Chapter Two!

Post by Billybgame » Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:13 am

Clersius" wrote:Aye, the blue-grey ones are Uncommon Cube Scrolls. They can have better mods than Commons, but there are dogs in all tiers of Cube Scrolls. What's really disappointing is when you get one of the dozen or so completely useless Arcane Cube Scrolls. :roll: Now that is annoying. :x

Anyway, keep making them and upgrading the ones that have no use for you. All in all you will not be wasting your time.

Oh, by the way, Arcanes are red with a little skull on them.
Ok...thanks....yeah, the mods are no better, for sure...probably worse than many common!

I have yet to upgrade any. Being so new, I've been trying to collect 10 of most any, except gem to key, etc. Guess I better look up that recipe:)
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Re: Evolution Tournament Series - Chapter Two!

Post by Hellwolf_36 » Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:30 am

billybgame" wrote:Wow....I'm not so sure about p 127 for the side quest.....doing the Maggot Lair on p 8 and these Mithril Knights....holy cow....my Sorc has been steamrolling everything, and she burned through all her mana pots, just taking out basic monsters. Hate to see Champions or boss packs of these at this point.
Bring along a legion of summons and utilize high level Hydras with Frozen Orb backup to slaughter them all. At Players127, most of the charm summons can hold the line quite well.

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Re: Evolution Tournament Series - Chapter Two!

Post by Billybgame » Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:12 pm

Hellwolf_36" wrote:
billybgame" wrote:Wow....I'm not so sure about p 127 for the side quest.....doing the Maggot Lair on p 8 and these Mithril Knights....holy cow....my Sorc has been steamrolling everything, and she burned through all her mana pots, just taking out basic monsters. Hate to see Champions or boss packs of these at this point.
Bring along a legion of summons and utilize high level Hydras with Frozen Orb backup to slaughter them all. At Players127, most of the charm summons can hold the line quite well.
I've never been a fan of Hydra spells, and hadn't tried them yet in this mod, but ok...I'll test them out some.
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Re: Evolution Tournament Series - Chapter Two!

Post by Hellwolf_36 » Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:17 am

It will take a few Hydras to kill on Players127, but it is doable. As long as your summons hold the line, there is no possible way you could die unless you are careless.

A charm with Blood Golems, some kind of wolves or a bear are viable options for meat shielding.

Glacial Spike and Static Field also helps if you can't use summons. Use Glacial Spike to freeze your foes solid, then spam Static Field
to cut their life down to 25%. If you can squeeze in some Hydras in this strategy, you can get away with it.

With summons that can hold the line, you can get away with just Static Field and Hydras.

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Re: Evolution Tournament Series - Chapter Two!

Post by Billybgame » Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:59 pm

I have been using a blood golem, dire wolves and skellie mages for a long time....so yeah, I'm set there. I've got my MF up to around 900, but that's about as far as I'm going. I'll give it a shot at p127, soon.
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Re: Evolution Tournament Series - Chapter Two!

Post by Hellwolf_36 » Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:51 am

Factoring in the magic find, your summons, players 127, your class and possible appearance of undead monsters (Returned and Hollow Ones can be farmed over and over for drops)...

You will most likely get 3000-4500 points off this sidequest, assuming you strike down all the monsters only once and no Find Item. I had about 1k+ MF for this tourney and got 4572.

I feel you should do it now or you can get a little more MF then try. Either way, you will score some big points on this sidequest.

If you want to avoid death on this tournament, let your summons hold the line and summon Hydras or spam Static Field behind the army. You can Glacial spike if things get dicey, but try to limit this on undead-type targets near Hollow Ones. You can re-roll for items off resurrected monsters until the Hollow Ones are slain. Or just wreck anything that approaches you, I had some time consuming pushes leaving Returned alive and especially Apparitions.

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