Act 3 Mapping Questions

[Trevor]

Great Marsh - I am looking for a submap that I can use to add a link to another map. In all of the outdoor jungle maps, is there one submap that is used once and only in the Great Marsh?

Temples - Does any one have a list of which temple spawns in Lower Kurast, the Bazaar, and Upper Kurast?

I'm looking to expand Act 3 in one of these two locations. (I have already expnded at the Sewers and Causeway)
Thank you in advance.

[PureRage]

You will have to edit multiple (I think 4) DS1's for this. It took a while to find what group of maps to use (ensuring that only 1 variation would spawn per game). But i do have a working warp to a new map from the great marsh.

It's been a year since i touched any of this so my memory is fuzzy on the subject. Heres a link to the edited DS1's from my jungle folder though, check through them and make a note of what ones have the warp on. Those are the ones that can only spawn 1 of per game. Just replace the warp with your own one.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15324396/jungle.rar

To find out what temples spawn on each map, just check what level numbers are linked to lower/upper/bazaar in levels.txt.

[Trevor]

Thanks for posting the link Rage. I finally had some time to go through them. How did you manage to figure out what maps to edit? It appears to be completely ad hoc. (There were 6 or 7 maps that had Vis tiles added to them.)

[PureRage]

Lots and lots of trial and error. I'm sure there was some method to the madness, but it was so long ago I can't remember.
It was mainly to make the marsh something worth exploring. The warp takes you to a side quest/challenge area in the form of a sacked city. Ormus is at the end (not got around to removing him from the town though) and the gidbinn reward was changed to a unique jewel that works together with a special charm dropped in that level. The charm needs to be cubed after killing the boss under a certain level, then the jewel socketed to create the completed reward.
Pretty much an expansion of the gidbinn quest.

[Trevor]

OK - I did some exploring in the Great Marsh with some edited maps - both yours and mine. Using your maps, I dont understand how you know that you wont spawn two sub maps with warping tiles on them.

When I use mine, (I've edited four maps - all belonging to the same "subgroup" in act3/jungle/bog), I've noticed that I cant seem to get two warping submaps which is great, but I've noticed that the Great Marsh can spawn without any warps at all. The game doesnt seem to care, and quite honestly, neither do I. IE - if the warping tile spawns - great - off to my new map. If it doesnt, the game isnt spewing the usual mapping errors and you can explore the GM without issue.

Should I be concerned? Levels.txt clearly shows that the Great Marsh has a link to map id 247 and map 247 obviously links back to the Great Marsh. That said, the game seems to work just fine. Your thoughts?

[Paul Siramy]

The Vis and Warp in levels.txt, as you found out, need to reference all the possible warps that DS1 contains, but given the version of the DS1 it is possible that some warps are in fact not there. No problem. It's only a problem when a DS1 has a Vis which is not referenced in levels.txt.

Check Making optional maps for examples.

[Trevor]

Thankyou Paul! I never knew that mapping concept was possible.