Expanded Zy-El Limitaton post
Expanded Zy-El Limitaton post
I thought that it would be a good idea to add all of the data relating to caps, maximums and rollovers in one post. Gh0st(Eth) has a post that covers damage caps here but it does not cover the crafting maximums. Please post any corrections, updates, and additions and I will modify this post.
Total Life Maximum: 8,388,607
Increase Maximum Life maximum: 149,375 per item
Increase Maximum Life per Level maximum: 31.875 life per item
Increase Maximum Mana maximum: 149,375 per item
Increase Maximum Mana per Level maximum: 31.875 mana per item
Maximum Attack: 21,474,836
Strength/Dexterity/Vitality/Energy maximum: 32767?
Strength/Dexterity/Vitality/Energy per level maximum: ?
AC / Level: ? (maximum?, is there a Rollover or Cap?)
Defense: 149,375 per item
Dmg. Reduction /Level: ? (maximum?, is there a Rollover or Cap?)
Dmg. Reduced By %: 95% PvM 75% PVP
Dmg. Reduced By:? (maximum?, is there a Rollover or Cap?)
Magic Reduced By:? (maximum?, is there a Rollover or Cap?)
Mana Regeneration %: ? (maximum?, is there a Rollover or Cap?)
Life Regeneration: 3071 per item
Increase Maximum Life by%: (maximum?)
Increase Maximum Mana by%: (maximum?)
Max Thorn Damage: ?
Max. Resist Fire/Cold/Poison/Lightning: 95%
Max. Resist Magic: 75%
Resist Fire/Cold/Poison/Lightning: (rollover or cap?)(if you have 257 Resist cold, does it rollover and set it to 2% for example?)
Resist Magic: (rollover or cap)?
Lightning/Fire/Cold/Poison Absorb: ?
+All Skills Max. per item: 127
Class Restricted Item, Max +Skills: 3 071
Skill Tab Max.: 30 (per crafted ring, amulet)
Specific Skill Max: 120 per crft. charm (If you craft only single Skill on charm with a few bonuses)
Max. Elemental Damage: 83,886 damage (does not include poison w/ damage over time, blaze, firewall).
Max. Physical Damage: 83,886 damage (Recommended 41943 for Amazons)
Increased Attack Speed Maximum: ? (is there a bug at a certain rate where you cannot hit anything? Does it matter what the base speed of the item is?)
Increased Movement Speed Maximum: ?
Reduce Target AC by (maximum) : ?
Gold Find Maximum: 64,511% per item
Magic Find Maximum: Magic number is around 1500% MF, maxes between 250000% and 500000% (see Link here).
Maximum modification lines per item: 44 (note: some are hidden that will contribute to the maximum)
Deathkeep - Level 99 Necromancer
Morraine - Level 334 Sorceress
Total Life Maximum: 8,388,607
Increase Maximum Life maximum: 149,375 per item
Increase Maximum Life per Level maximum: 31.875 life per item
Increase Maximum Mana maximum: 149,375 per item
Increase Maximum Mana per Level maximum: 31.875 mana per item
Maximum Attack: 21,474,836
Strength/Dexterity/Vitality/Energy maximum: 32767?
Strength/Dexterity/Vitality/Energy per level maximum: ?
AC / Level: ? (maximum?, is there a Rollover or Cap?)
Defense: 149,375 per item
Dmg. Reduction /Level: ? (maximum?, is there a Rollover or Cap?)
Dmg. Reduced By %: 95% PvM 75% PVP
Dmg. Reduced By:? (maximum?, is there a Rollover or Cap?)
Magic Reduced By:? (maximum?, is there a Rollover or Cap?)
Mana Regeneration %: ? (maximum?, is there a Rollover or Cap?)
Life Regeneration: 3071 per item
Increase Maximum Life by%: (maximum?)
Increase Maximum Mana by%: (maximum?)
Max Thorn Damage: ?
Max. Resist Fire/Cold/Poison/Lightning: 95%
Max. Resist Magic: 75%
Resist Fire/Cold/Poison/Lightning: (rollover or cap?)(if you have 257 Resist cold, does it rollover and set it to 2% for example?)
Resist Magic: (rollover or cap)?
Lightning/Fire/Cold/Poison Absorb: ?
+All Skills Max. per item: 127
Class Restricted Item, Max +Skills: 3 071
Skill Tab Max.: 30 (per crafted ring, amulet)
Specific Skill Max: 120 per crft. charm (If you craft only single Skill on charm with a few bonuses)
Max. Elemental Damage: 83,886 damage (does not include poison w/ damage over time, blaze, firewall).
Max. Physical Damage: 83,886 damage (Recommended 41943 for Amazons)
Increased Attack Speed Maximum: ? (is there a bug at a certain rate where you cannot hit anything? Does it matter what the base speed of the item is?)
Increased Movement Speed Maximum: ?
Reduce Target AC by (maximum) : ?
Gold Find Maximum: 64,511% per item
Magic Find Maximum: Magic number is around 1500% MF, maxes between 250000% and 500000% (see Link here).
Maximum modification lines per item: 44 (note: some are hidden that will contribute to the maximum)
Deathkeep - Level 99 Necromancer
Morraine - Level 334 Sorceress
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Re: Expanded Zy-El Limitaton post
Gold Find per Item is 63487
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Skill Tab Max 30 per crft. ring/amuletSkill Tab Max.: ?
Specific Skill Max: ?
Specific Skill: 120 per crft. charm (If you craft only single Skill on charm with a few bonuses)
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Re: Expanded Zy-El Limitaton post
3071 life regen per item...
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I'd be very interested to know if crit strikes cause damage to roll or not, as well as the amplify damage curse. Kind of important so I can plan out my super-zon. ;-)
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It appears that the rollover happens after crit strike hits, I was just doing normal cows and was having a hell of a time killing them with 55k multishot, I lowered it to 42k multishot and they died very, very fast.
Well, always nice to know. :-)
(I *knew* I was going to appreciate increasing my damage one 500% ED charm at a time.. I just stuck a few in my stash and it took me down to 42k)
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Now that I think of it, I was levelling my merc(worthless so far x.x still dies in one hit in insanes) and he casts amplify damage I think, maybe THAT was causing the damage to roll.. now I don't really know. Hah.
Well, always nice to know. :-)
(I *knew* I was going to appreciate increasing my damage one 500% ED charm at a time.. I just stuck a few in my stash and it took me down to 42k)
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Now that I think of it, I was levelling my merc(worthless so far x.x still dies in one hit in insanes) and he casts amplify damage I think, maybe THAT was causing the damage to roll.. now I don't really know. Hah.
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Re: Expanded Zy-El Limitaton post
+149375 Life/ Max per Item
+149375 Mana/ Max per Item
+149375 Defense/ Max per Item
At least that is all you can put on a crafted belt.
+149375 Mana/ Max per Item
+149375 Defense/ Max per Item
At least that is all you can put on a crafted belt.
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These stats are lvl based How much is it per lvlNo Burdens";p="134498" wrote:+149375 Life/ Max per Item
+149375 Mana/ Max per Item
+149375 Defense/ Max per Item
At least that is all you can put on a crafted belt.
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It's 29.875 per lvl. Just divide those numbers by 5kJack Nipper";p="134527" wrote:These stats are lvl based How much is it per lvlNo Burdens";p="134498" wrote:+149375 Life/ Max per Item
+149375 Mana/ Max per Item
+149375 Defense/ Max per Item
At least that is all you can put on a crafted belt.
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It is clear now, but No Burdens didn't noticed that. So I wanted him to answer...(I can divide by 5000 too )It's 29.875 per lvl. Just divide those numbers by 5k
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Edit: Duh, your right!
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so would attack rating bocl be the same as the rest, e.g. 149,375 @ lvl 5000?
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No, it is more: I think about 579 000 on my 5K char...genericstoner";p="135158" wrote:so would attack rating bocl be the same as the rest, e.g. 149,375 @ lvl 5000?
I have now problems with attack rating with my pala...when using other auras than fana, it is around 18 mil, but when I use fana, than it goes to minus number, and I have only 5% chance to hit everything
I will have to repair it somehow
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The maximum is 255/8 = 31.875 for both values. And it is just a restriction per item.Aludiin";p="133925" wrote:Increase Maximum Life per Level maximum: 28.75 life (per item?)
Increase Maximum Mana per Level maximum: 28.75?? (per item?)
((2 ^ 23) - 1) / 100 = 83886 is the right value. And yes the Ama should try to be under the half of the cap (= 41943) if she uses critical strike.Aludiin";p="133925" wrote:Max. Elemental Damage: 87040 damage (does not include poison w/ damage over time, blaze, firewall).
Max. Physical Damage: 87040 damage (Recommended 43520 for Amazons?, or is critical strike figured afterwards?)
Damage to Demon and Undead is another problem which is getting you over the cap.
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Why are you bumping a topic where the last post was in 2003
I am guessing this topic will now be locked by a moderator/admin
I am guessing this topic will now be locked by a moderator/admin
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I think it is a good list of all the Caps. I did not find another so complete and clear collection of the caps.
So I thought others would be interested in this, too.
And I have to apologize, I did not see, that it is so old. But I think the caps are still the same at 4.4c.
The only bad point is that Aludiin maybe does not come back to this Forum. His last posting I found was from Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:17 am. And at the Zy-El: Trial by Fire Mod Forum it was even: Wed Oct 22, 2003 12:21 am. (How can I contact a person w/o a picture?).
I think so he will not edit the 1st posting to stay up to date.
Maybe I should start a new thread copying his posting and administer the 1st posting with the cap collection myself.
When I delete my postings and you delete yours, will this thread then switch back to where it was?
So I thought others would be interested in this, too.
And I have to apologize, I did not see, that it is so old. But I think the caps are still the same at 4.4c.
The only bad point is that Aludiin maybe does not come back to this Forum. His last posting I found was from Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:17 am. And at the Zy-El: Trial by Fire Mod Forum it was even: Wed Oct 22, 2003 12:21 am. (How can I contact a person w/o a picture?).
I think so he will not edit the 1st posting to stay up to date.
Maybe I should start a new thread copying his posting and administer the 1st posting with the cap collection myself.
When I delete my postings and you delete yours, will this thread then switch back to where it was?
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Well, I suppose we could just stickey it and then it will stay without having to be bumped.
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Thank you. Kato, for sticking it.
But how can the values now be actualized?
But how can the values now be actualized?
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i like this thread, the old one was a little confused for me...
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Re: Expanded Zy-El Limitaton post
Yes, thanks KatoClaws";p="411575" wrote:Thank you. Kato, for sticking it.
But how can the values now be actualized?
We can add posts with known values as some of the above are still incorrect.
I'll start with Maximum Gold Find = 64511% and...here is the proof. I did this purely as a test in 4.2B but it should be the same in 4.4C. I also did a similar test for maximum Magic Find and I'll add it later when I find which character it is on. It may take a while as I have to revert back to version 4.2B and I have lots of chars to check . I suspect it is the same % as GF but best if I double check.
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Re: Expanded Zy-El Limitaton post
I just add this post with a copy of the 1st as it will still be on the 1st page of this thread. And I will correct all the values respective to later posts.
Maximum Life: 8 388 607
Maximum Attack: 21 474 836 (=2^31/100) after that it stays positive a while but you already have 5% chance to hit instead of 95 % and later it turns to negative values.
Increase Maximum Life maximum: 149,375 (per item)
Increase Maximum Life per Level maximum: 31.875 life (per item)
Increase Maximum Mana maximum: 149,375 (per item)
Increase Maximum Mana per Level maximum: 31.875 (per item)
Strength/Dexterity/Vitality/Energy maximum: 32 767?
Strength/Dexterity/Vitality/Energy per level maximum: ?
AC / Level: ? (maximum?, is there a Rollover or Cap?)
Total AC: ? (maximum?, is there a Rollover or Cap?)
Dmg. Reduction /Level: ? (maximum?, is there a Rollover or Cap?)
Dmg. Reduced By %: 95% PvM 75% PvP
Dmg. Reduced By:? (maximum?, is there a Rollover or Cap?)
Magic Reduced By: ? (maximum?, is there a Rollover or Cap?)
Mana Regeneration %: ? (maximum?, is there a Rollover or Cap?)
Life Regeneration: 3071 per item
Increase Maximum Life by%: (maximum?)
Increase Maximum Mana by%: (maximum?)
Max Thorn Damage: ?
Max. Resist Fire/Cold/Poison/Lightning:95%
Max. Resist Magic: 75%
Resist Fire/Cold/Poison/Lightning (rollover or cap?) (if you have 257 Resist cold, does it rollover and set it to 2% for example?)
Resist Magic: (rollover or cap)?
Lightning/Fire/Cold/Poison Absorb: ?
Resist Fire/Cold/Poison/Lightning/Magic per item: 255
+All Skills Max. per item: 127
Class Restricted Item, Max +Skills: 3 071
Skill Tab Max.: 30 (per crafted ring, amulet)
Specific Skill Max: 120 per crft. charm (If you craft only single Skill on charm with a few bonuses)
Max. Elemental Damage: 83 886 ?? damage (does not include poison w/ damage over time, blaze, firewall).
Max. Physical Damage: 83 886 (=((2 ^ 23) - 1) / 100 ) damage (Recommended 41 943 for Amazons and users of deadyly strike. Bear in mind that Damage to Undead/Demons will also raise the damage)
Increased Attack Speed Maximum: ? (is there a bug at a certain rate where you cannot hit anything? Does it matter what the base speed of the item is?)
Increased Movement Speed Maximum: ?
Reduce Target AC by (maximum) : ?
Gold Find Maximum: 64 511% (per item)
Magic Find Maximum: Magic number is around 1 500% MF, maxes between 250 000% and 500 000%.
Maximum modification lines per item: 44 (note: some are hidden that will contribute to the maximum)
Edit: I am going to colour all corrected and sure values.
Maximum Life: 8 388 607
Maximum Attack: 21 474 836 (=2^31/100) after that it stays positive a while but you already have 5% chance to hit instead of 95 % and later it turns to negative values.
Increase Maximum Life maximum: 149,375 (per item)
Increase Maximum Life per Level maximum: 31.875 life (per item)
Increase Maximum Mana maximum: 149,375 (per item)
Increase Maximum Mana per Level maximum: 31.875 (per item)
Strength/Dexterity/Vitality/Energy maximum: 32 767?
Strength/Dexterity/Vitality/Energy per level maximum: ?
AC / Level: ? (maximum?, is there a Rollover or Cap?)
Total AC: ? (maximum?, is there a Rollover or Cap?)
Dmg. Reduction /Level: ? (maximum?, is there a Rollover or Cap?)
Dmg. Reduced By %: 95% PvM 75% PvP
Dmg. Reduced By:? (maximum?, is there a Rollover or Cap?)
Magic Reduced By: ? (maximum?, is there a Rollover or Cap?)
Mana Regeneration %: ? (maximum?, is there a Rollover or Cap?)
Life Regeneration: 3071 per item
Increase Maximum Life by%: (maximum?)
Increase Maximum Mana by%: (maximum?)
Max Thorn Damage: ?
Max. Resist Fire/Cold/Poison/Lightning:95%
Max. Resist Magic: 75%
Resist Fire/Cold/Poison/Lightning (rollover or cap?) (if you have 257 Resist cold, does it rollover and set it to 2% for example?)
Resist Magic: (rollover or cap)?
Lightning/Fire/Cold/Poison Absorb: ?
Resist Fire/Cold/Poison/Lightning/Magic per item: 255
+All Skills Max. per item: 127
Class Restricted Item, Max +Skills: 3 071
Skill Tab Max.: 30 (per crafted ring, amulet)
Specific Skill Max: 120 per crft. charm (If you craft only single Skill on charm with a few bonuses)
Max. Elemental Damage: 83 886 ?? damage (does not include poison w/ damage over time, blaze, firewall).
Max. Physical Damage: 83 886 (=((2 ^ 23) - 1) / 100 ) damage (Recommended 41 943 for Amazons and users of deadyly strike. Bear in mind that Damage to Undead/Demons will also raise the damage)
Increased Attack Speed Maximum: ? (is there a bug at a certain rate where you cannot hit anything? Does it matter what the base speed of the item is?)
Increased Movement Speed Maximum: ?
Reduce Target AC by (maximum) : ?
Gold Find Maximum: 64 511% (per item)
Magic Find Maximum: Magic number is around 1 500% MF, maxes between 250 000% and 500 000%.
Maximum modification lines per item: 44 (note: some are hidden that will contribute to the maximum)
Edit: I am going to colour all corrected and sure values.
Last edited by Claws on Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:27 am, edited 8 times in total.
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That is just a proof that the Maximum (per item) is not lower.Al-T";p="411590" wrote:I'll start with Maximum Gold Find = 64511% and...here is the proof.
By the way, do you know if the 95% Damage Resistance against Monsters are correct?
Last edited by Claws on Sun Mar 01, 2009 1:16 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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1. Yes this is per. item (as I advised on the Wiki) and it is the absolute maximum per. item as trying to add to this has no effect.Claws";p="411600" wrote:That is just a proof that the Maximum (per item) is not lower.
By the way, do you know if the 95% Damage Resistance against Monsters are correct?
2. I suspect only Kato can answer that for sure. Who knows what tweaks he has done to those values in over 6 years modding .
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Re: Expanded Zy-El Limitaton post
I just ask about the Damage Resistance, because I only find the information in the web that it is capped at 50 %.
See here and here.
Of course this is about the Vanilla Version. But e.g. the magic resistances also didn't change.
See here and here.
Of course this is about the Vanilla Version. But e.g. the magic resistances also didn't change.
Last edited by Claws on Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:30 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Re: Expanded Zy-El Limitaton post
Updated with additional comments above.
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